What am I afraid of the most about the Spirit World? – Bureaucracy!

By Brian Foster


bureaucratMy biggest fear of dying isn’t hell or being locked into some territory of my own mind, but having to live for eternity in a society where incompetent bureaucrats determine our actions and imprison us in their idiotic rules. Where I would have to work with souls who do not merit my respect. Is this fear real or false?


As Spiritist, we realize that when we leave our corporeal bodies, we enter the Spirit world, where we are expected to begin to toil, to perform work for the good of the society. Of this, I have no problem, for I completely agree with the comments by the Spirits in the book Heaven and Hell, where in explaining what is heaven? We are told, “The bliss of the blessed spirits does not consist in contemplative idleness, which, as we have stated many times, would be eternal and fastidious uselessness. On the contrary, spirit life at all degrees involves constant activity, but an activity without weariness.”[1]

Constant activity is my normal state, I live to learn, to explore, to do something useful for myself and others. What abhors me are the obstacles put in place by mindless functionaries, people who have nothing better to do than to exercise their petty powers to prove themselves to be bigger than they actually are. The do-gooders who create rules upon rules, a mountain of laws, each one present just to tell me what to do in my daily life, as if I was incapable of any initiative of my own.

Why I am Worried?

Once you start reading the various books, specifically the books by Andre Luiz, one detects the constant presence of rules and authority. The existence of a command structure of processes,Nossa-Lar-people procedures, and laws which are implied in many passages. Ranging from the small, such as, Andre Luiz who wishes to attend a lecture, writes, “Since I was aware that I needed permission to attend, I asked Tobias about it.”[2] Therefore, Andre Luiz couldn’t just show up, or buy a ticket, he needed to ask permission. Why should he ask permission? Why couldn’t he just go, if that is what he wants? Why? Why must I be controlled even in death? Well, Tobias supplies a sensible answer;

“These lectures” he said, “are only attended by truly interested spirits. Our instructors can’t afford to waste their time. Thus, you will be allowed to attend along with hundreds of other listeners from among the workers and patients of the Ministries of Regeneration and Assistance.”

With an encouraging gesture, he concluded:

“I hope you really enjoy it.”[3]

OK, well that made sense. Even spirits have the right to not waste their time. There is another passage from the book, Memoirs of a Suicide, where a recent suicide, Jeronimo, demanded to see the head physician. Jeronimo was ready for battle;

“Jeronimo – who thought he would meet with the haughtiness of earthly bureaucrats, stagnated in the foolish boasting they enjoy so much and to which he accustomed – was amazed to perceive in those scrutinizing eyes the humility of a tear oscillating near the surface.”[4]

The head physician, Teocrito, was an unexpected find for Jeronimo. A humble and caring leader. Teocrito brings Jeronimo into his office and gently explains;

“My friend! My brother Jeronimo!” Teocrito began. “Before answering your request, I must first clarify that I am not at all a Prince, as you have supposed, nor do I carry any such titles. I am simply a spirit that used to be a man! Someone who has lived, suffered and struggled throughout many existences on the earth, learning along the way a few things related to the planet. A servant of Jesus of Nazareth – that is what I am happy to be, albeit very modest, lacking any merits and still very deficient. A plain worker, who, around those who suffer, is taking his first steps in the cultivation of the Divine Master’s services of Mary of Nazareth, his august Mother!”[5]

It would be hard to hold any type of prolonged anger at such a bureaucrat. Not to mention, a bit difficult to maintain any higher moral authority. Therefore, after what I have read in the encounters with decision makers in the Spirit world, they seem to be in their positions because they have earned them. What is more astounding, is they genuinely desire to do the right thing.

How many of us have worked in an organization with people like this? I know, that on rare occasions, where I have had the privilege to labor alongside a group of competent, caring and involved people, where we have a leader that treats of all us fairly and we actually admire that person that this situation never lasts long. Why? Because, some power-hungry, incompetent, but politically astute, idiot maneuvers our bright shining leader into an unfair political fight and takes over. I have seen this occur too frequently.

Nossa-lar-topviewWhat about the big pronouncements, such as a grand policy decision that could affect many of us in one of the heavenly cities? How are these handled? There is an example of one in the book, Nossa Lar. In Nossa Lar, which is an astral city above Rio de Janeiro, which is where the wonderful spirit author Andre Luiz lives, the spirits there do not require meals as we do on earth, they are able to survive perfectly on a smaller portion of nutrients, such as water and sunlight. Although, some spirits still wanted to eat as they did before, fresh from their memories on earth. When Andre first came to the colony Nossa Lar, he learned of the struggle to change the habits of the people there;

“After twenty-one years of persevering effort by the Government Center, the Ministry of Elevation gave in and cut it supplies down to what was strictly necessary. The Ministry of Elucidation, however took much longer to make a commitment due to the great numbers of spirits working there, who were dedicated to the mathematical sciences. They were the most obstinate adversaries. Since there were used to the ingestion of protein and carbohydrates, which they deemed indispensable to the physical body, they wouldn’t give in to the new concept applied here. They sent the Governor weekly lengthy observations and warnings full of analyses and numerical data, and they became quite indiscrete at times. The old Governor never acted alone, however. He enlisted the assistance of noble mentors who guide us via the Ministry of Divine Union, and never dismissed even the smallest report without have examined it in detail.”[6]

Nossa-lar-lectureTwenty-one years to get people to gradually change their habits, not exactly an iron-fisted dictatorship. In fact, subtle changes made their way back into the old habits, as told to Andre Luiz;
“Since then, there has been a greater supply of nutritive substances that remind us of earth – but only in the Ministries of Regeneration and Assistance, where there is always a great number in need of such substances.”[7]

While, heaven is not a democracy, where people could vote themselves all sorts of destructive devices to amuse the populace, it is a meritocracy, in the purest sense. A true Plato’s republic, where the wise, and they actually are wise, not born or maneuvered into their positions, rule.


What is my conclusion? Yes, there is a bureaucracy in heaven, is it perfect? Probably not. Is it staffed with power-hungry political hacks? No. The evidence suggests the people in position of responsibility should be there.

Once again, the Law of Affinity (where like attracts like) rules. Good spirits, who are dedicated toCity-heaven the long toil of excellence have gathered together to guide over us. It’s hard to fight loving and caring competent people, it’s not a pleasant fight and therefore better to mimic their humbleness and learn from those wiser than you. Be patient in the knowledge that everyone is actively striving for the same object, to assist all of us to attain perfection one day.


Brian Foster has a BSCS degree and a MBA. He has worked in R&D for medical device corporations and in IT for large financial institutions. Brian Foster has a blog at http://www.nwspiritism.com.

Works Cited
Kardec, A. (2006). Heaven and Hell. Brasilia (DF), Brasil: International Spiritist Council.
Kardec, A. (2008). The Gospel According to Spiritism. Brasilia (DF): International Spiritist Council.
Pereira, Y. A. (2010). Memoirs of a Suicide. Brasilia (DF), Brasil: International Spiritist Council.
Xavier, F. C. (2010). Nossa Lar. Brasilia – (DF), Brazil: International Spiritist Council.

[1] KARDEC, Allan, Heaven and Hell, EDICEI, Chap. 3 num. 12, p. 44
[2] Xavier, Francisco C., Nossa Lar, EDICEI, p.219
[3] Xavier, Francisco C., Nossa Lar, EDICEI, p.219
[4] Pereira, Y.A., Memoirs of the Suicide, EDICEI, p. 102
[5] Pereira, Y.A., Memoirs of the Suicide, EDICEI, pp. 102-103
[6] Xavier, Francisco C., Nossa Lar, EDICEI, p. 59
[7] Xavier, Francisco C., Nossa Lar, EDICEI, p. 60


Looks like materialists are getting a jump on Susan Blackmore ‘scientific’ new book:


I understand that the blogger, Brian Hines, is an atheist/materialist ( he said so himself ). But he doesn’t seem to understand that materialism is not science.
A few of the commenters ( mainly from materialists named Jesse, Tao, Turan, and Tuscon Bob ) keep saying that “spiritual people get upset when mystical experiences like OBE/NDEs are naturally explained as cognitive functions and brain activity, or explained as mental illnesses, because they don’t want to give up a comforting belief: That there is an afterlife, and that there’s more to reality than the mundane world. They refuse to give up the illusion. A childish belief in dualism that many adults believe in”. But I found myself agreeing with almost all the commenters in the entire blog, way more than the blogger himself. In fact, I don’t even remember agreeing with the blogger.
But basically some of those commenters, and the occasional aggressive ‘skeptics’, repeat the same old mantra: The physical life is the only one we get. Mental and physical suffering/illness is from your body and evolution telling you something is wrong, not from a spiritual realm. The mind is brain-based, and all mystical experiences are delusions and brain activity. And anyone who says otherwise or disagrees, are delusional, afraid of death, childish, can’t accept reality, desperately want compensation and a purpose for their hardships, and mental and physical suffering.

Do they ever think for a second that maybe the reason “spiritual believers” get upset when they hear their experiences being naturally explained, is because they’re probably tired of hearing it? I know I am.
And the whole “people only question materialism and are open to the idea of an afterlife, because they’re afraid of eternal oblivion” assumption, has got to stop. That’s not the case with all mind beyond brain proponents.

Yes, it is true that SOME people believe in an afterlife because it gives them comfort, something to look forward to, and lets them sleep at night. But I, many others, paranormal and NDE researchers, accept an immaterial reality and afterlife, because of the mounds of evidence pointing towards it. Not because we’re scared of death, dislike or fear materialism, or “refuse to give up the illusion of mind being separate from the brain”.

I also do think Brian Hines, some of the commenters, and the occasional hard skeptics, have a tendency to jump to conclusions, or get a little too excited when something seems to fit materialism, or debunk paranormal phenomena, like Susan Blackmore’s PychologyToday and her books, when brain damage and drugs alter consciousness, spiritual experiences are recreated in the lab, OBEs induced by messing with certain brain regions, brain activity scans during spiritual experiences, etc. Non of those actually debunk paranormal phenomena.

I think it’s funny how some materialist will hesitate to accept spiritual experiences as being something more, but they seem to readily accept them as being nothing but a result of the nervous system, trauma, illness, subconscious for survival and reproduction, evolutionary mechanisms, etc, in a quick flash heartbeat.
So much for “skepticism, critical thinking, and questioning everything.”


Also, no matter how many blog posts Brian Hines writes about spiritual experiences and “pseudoscientist” Dean Radin, evidence against materialism is mounting up, and none of it is based on “desperately wanting something other than this mundane existence.” He can call the evidence fear-driven, workings and programmings of the brain and nervous system, fear of the unknown, and comforting wishful thinking all he wants. But those sayings are not new.
Yes, I would love there to be more than just this mundane physical world, and an afterlife. But like I said, I wouldn’t accept any of it if there were zero evidence, just because it makes me feel better and gives me comfort. However, there’s too much evidence for me to say that this physical reality is all there is. Science is starting to move away from the materialist view, and is leaning towards panpsychism, which I think is a great start.
Also, I kind of like the “unknown”. Keeps me from getting too bored.
But hey, while I wish he would look away from the brain and the materialistic view for a minute, at least Brian Hines isn’t aggressive like Jerry Coyne, who whines, throws tantrums, hurls the word ‘woo’, and blocks/bans commenters that disagree with him, or contradict his worldview in materialism. His website is nothing but an echo chamber.
If I had to choose between Hines and Coyne, it would be Hines.


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